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Jacob Peterson
Minneapolis, Minnesota
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2006-06-01 16:37:19

I read this great article about the scientific impossibility of evolution. It's very thought-provoking! I'd like to hear what other people think of this.

http://jeremyandchristine.com/articles/evolution.html

Sara Gritt
Farmington, New Mexico
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2006-06-02 09:14:22

Not everyone believes in Christ, or a God for that matter. Why would it be ok to force your beliefs on others?

Jacob Peterson
Minneapolis, Minnesota
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2006-06-02 09:35:37

This isn't about beliefs. This is real science. Objective science is not slanted toward one way just because it may be politically correct.

You're of course welcome to believe what you like, but for those who may be searching for unbiased truth about the origins of life, it's helpful to know that evolution can be objectively, scientifically proven impossible in hundreds of ways.

Sara
Crystal, Minnesota
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2006-06-06 15:38:58

it is about beliefs if you can't prove it

insta
Shawnee Mission, Kansas
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2006-06-06 16:35:28

It is interesting for me to take note, Creationism and Evolution both rely on leaps of faith, just in completely opposite directions.

For as much as God could have created the Earth and the heavens, lightning could have struck the primordial ooze and created the basis of life from which everything spawned. The chief difference between the two is that Creationism is passed down through hundreds of generations, through a known psychologically weak (especially when confronted with things that they do not understand) medium, and Evolution can be demonstrated on a small scale in the course of one semester in an entry-level biology class.

Who is anybody to say that my leap of faith is wrong?

anonymous
Northfield, Minnesota
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2006-06-24 21:01:29



On 2006-06-02 09:14:22, Sara Gritt said:

Not everyone believes in Christ, or a God for that matter. Why would it be ok to force your beliefs on others?

who is forcing the Creator upon you?

insta
Shawnee Mission, Kansas
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2006-06-26 12:17:14

How about instead of "the", you use "my". That one-word change mollifies nearly every complaint that people may have, as it removes your claim of a unified God, and instead places Him as a unified Christian God. Not everyone holds your beliefs, please don't tell everyone that your beliefs are *the* way.

Craig Boyd
Fairmont, Minnesota
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2006-06-26 17:20:49



On 2006-06-26 12:17:14, insta said:

How about instead of "the", you use "my". That one-word change mollifies nearly every complaint that people may have, as it removes your claim of a unified God, and instead places Him as a unified Christian God. Not everyone holds your beliefs, please don't tell everyone that your beliefs are *the* way.


I agree that changing that one word would make the statement less "dogmatic," and it would be easier for anyone to accept. Just like you said, it mollifies nearly every complaint. If the goal of life were for everyone to live in peace and harmony with one another, then Insta would make a very compelling point with that.

But what if it's true? What if there really is a Creator? After all, if these things are true as Christians claim they are, then isn't it only fitting for Christians to state them as such?

Example:
If you knew that your friend was terminally ill with something that she perceived to be a harmless virus, and you had the antidote for it, wouldn't you say something? Wouldn't you risk rejection and persecution and maybe even the loss of your friendship in order to do whatever may help your friend to believe you? What kind of friend would you be if you gave up for fear of "offending" her or if you took the attitude "well, my personal belief is that this medicine is the only thing that can save your life, but that sounds too dogmatic..."

Hopefully, this gives you some insight into why Christians behave the way we do. We don't always go about things in the BEST way of course because we're only human. But on the whole, our actions are in line with our core beliefs. It would actually be hypocritical to do otherwise.

arnimation
Hutchinson, Minnesota
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2006-08-01 04:21:53

To think that complex organisms evolved from nothing is unbelievable! Everything created in this universe, living and non-living all have a creator. Take a complex watch. Take it all apart and throw its small parts into the air and let it fall to the ground... does it then form into a watch...no! There has to be a creator to form the watch. Same for humans and all other created things. There always has to be a creator to create something.

Then, where do you go after you die? Back to nothing? THat does not make any sense what so ever. Is your life that meaningless that you came from nothing and when you die you go to nothing?

How is human emotion created? Does it evolve from nothing?

Take a a small acorn seed and plant it into the ground. How does it grow into a huge oak tree? How does human life begin from conception, and develop into a facinating human being?

Does a human being come from nothing and then develop all by it self into a comples creation?

How are all the atoms in the universe held together? If they were not held together by a loving creator, the whole universe would explode.

Ralph
Salina, Kansas
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2006-08-01 11:32:12

"There always has to be a creator to create something."

Then who created the creator?

insta
Shawnee Mission, Kansas
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2006-08-01 12:00:18



On 2006-08-01 04:21:53, arnimation said:

To think that complex organisms evolved from nothing is unbelievable! Everything created in this universe, living and non-living all have a creator. Take a complex watch. Take it all apart and throw its small parts into the air and let it fall to the ground... does it then form into a watch...no! There has to be a creator to form the watch. Same for humans and all other created things. There always has to be a creator to create something.

Then, where do you go after you die? Back to nothing? THat does not make any sense what so ever. Is your life that meaningless that you came from nothing and when you die you go to nothing?

How is human emotion created? Does it evolve from nothing?

Take a a small acorn seed and plant it into the ground. How does it grow into a huge oak tree? How does human life begin from conception, and develop into a facinating human being?

Does a human being come from nothing and then develop all by it self into a comples creation?

How are all the atoms in the universe held together? If they were not held together by a loving creator, the whole universe would explode.



You know, if you take your fingers out of your ears, and listen to your 9th grade science class, all those questions are answered. Just because you don't personally understand it doesn't mean nobody understands it.

arnimation
Hutchinson, Minnesota
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2006-08-01 18:20:01



On 2006-08-01 12:00:18, insta said:



On 2006-08-01 04:21:53, arnimation said:

To think that complex organisms evolved from nothing is unbelievable! Everything created in this universe, living and non-living all have a creator. Take a complex watch. Take it all apart and throw its small parts into the air and let it fall to the ground... does it then form into a watch...no! There has to be a creator to form the watch. Same for humans and all other created things. There always has to be a creator to create something.

Then, where do you go after you die? Back to nothing? THat does not make any sense what so ever. Is your life that meaningless that you came from nothing and when you die you go to nothing?

How is human emotion created? Does it evolve from nothing?

Take a a small acorn seed and plant it into the ground. How does it grow into a huge oak tree? How does human life begin from conception, and develop into a facinating human being?

Does a human being come from nothing and then develop all by it self into a comples creation?

How are all the atoms in the universe held together? If they were not held together by a loving creator, the whole universe would explode.



You know, if you take your fingers out of your ears, and listen to your 9th grade science class, all those questions are answered. Just because you don't personally understand it doesn't mean nobody understands it.



"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it". John 1: 1-4

arnimation
Hutchinson, Minnesota
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2006-08-01 18:35:11



On 2006-08-01 11:32:12, Ralph said:

"There always has to be a creator to create something."

Then who created the creator?



The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, "What does blue smell like?" Blue is not in the category of things that have odor, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created, or come into existence, or are caused. God is uncaused and uncreated - He simply exists.

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty". Revelation 1:8

Sean
Shawnee Mission, Kansas
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2006-08-02 09:26:01

This explains everything. A quote from the Book of Armaments. Ahem..

Armaments, chapter two, verses nine through twenty-one. And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs
and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu...

And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the
third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

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